Kindle Fire HD 7" 16GB Wi-Fi Tablet
$24.99
Condition: Refurbished
Labeled Condition: Used - Good
Screen Size: 7"
Top positive review
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The only thing I would change is my decision to go with the Ads! (stupid decision on my part) Warning DON'T DO IT!
By Those_eyes on Reviewed in the United States on March 2, 2013
I never write reviews, and I felt like I needed to review this, mainly because I've got some interesting incites in the pros & cons of the Kindle Fire HD 7 in. *with advertisements. If you are not quite sure what tablet to get, or perhaps you're torn between the Kindle or a Nook (or some other "next new" like the Galaxy Tab that is one he'll of a phone! (Completely Ridiculous) Or maybe you are like me, who is an avid reader on an older version of Kindle that has the real paper look and was very comfortable when reading for long periods, (which I am, & have held out on getting a newer Kindle Fire HD model for two major reasons and a little of what lies underneath. I will end this review with explaining why I chose this device and how happy I am with my choice as of now. THIS IS MY OPINION...DON'T FREAK OUT. I'M NOT ATTACKING YOU, I PROMISE! Now clam down and let me explain. <<<<FIRST: My first concern was my eyes that are very sensitive to bright light, and sometimes too much optical simulation may result in see a computer screen or even the flash of a camera will cause temporary blindness which is followed by severe Migraines that cripple their victims with pain. I have always been fond of the paper look, and how much it relates to an actual "real" book experience and feel. I believed I didn't want or need an e-reader to do anything but let me read my books. I believe my exact words were, "I have a Kindle for reading and that is all I need it for and don't need it to do tricks, play games or use apps that I have no want to have...I got it to read on and it does that just fine. If it isn't broken, why bother fixing it?") And I was content with my original Kindle, Netbook, and phone. Until I realized one thing, maybe I do need an upgrade not a replacement, just something to have fun on and watch movies, tv, and other ...ish, to occupy my mind. So I noticed something that hasn't crossed my mind before, duh pffftt, the darn screen has a brightness control for this reason. So, I found that about .25% on control panel, that way it doesn't hurt my eyes at all. I like that volume & brightness control are located in the top menu bar making it easy to change it easily & often for different functions. So once I figured this out it was all basically settled, I was goin to buy a Fire HD. Hint: Movies have to be super bright or it looks really dark, you'll notice it fairly quickly though. It's pretty obvious. <<<<Second: My biggest worry was buying a Lemon and being stuck with it. No one wants that. I remember when I first heard about the "New Kindle Fire" it was extremely popular, and everyone just loved it. I saw thru it though, I wanted to wait and see what happens when they work out all the kinks that a mass-produced proto-type aka KindleFire original, are bound to have. Honestly, choosing to not be a lab rat on my dime, (like everyone else who bought the first KindleFire and ended up burned) was pretty smart on my part. My best friend was one such person and now she has a thin lead brick that you couldn't make turn on much less take a charge. 6 months ago it worked and the memory wasn't totally full but it didn't have much, it stopped running every app & within a month it was totally dead, won't charge or turn on anymore. We have tried everything, with no success and the only thing it's good for at the moment...is throwing at mean children who need since knocked into them. *I'm kidding, I don't hit children with broken electronics.* Or maybe a paperweight that cost 200$, either way I'm happy I waited for the HD and I believe I made a superb & informed choice. That I didn't rush into. <<<<So I compared it to a NookHD: I have a close friend who bought a Nook for Christmas. I compared book, movie, music, & game prices, if it would have been better, I had every intention of sending the HD back, and buying the Nook HD. I found that the Fire HD really was better all around. Especially considering the content pricing differs so drastically from one to another. The Amazon App Store is hands down the fastest downloading, and very simple to navigate though, and the prices are considerably lower for content, and have MANY more Free options. Also the Fire HD is a little faster while surfing the web (reminder: my opinion) than the Nook, though it's not too noticeable. I only figured it out when downloading content and streaming video with Netflix it was slower loading and had to buffer often in order to play. The Fire HD hardly ever has to buffer in the middle of movies or shows if ever and if it does it's due to our Wi-Fi connection being low and not an operational problem with the browser or device it's self. The only pro (in my opinion) for The Nook HD it comes with Google Play Store previously installed, though it's nice to have in certain situations, I honestly don't see a need for it and I haven't found an app or content that I wanted or needed that Amazon app store doesn't offer, cheaper in most cases. I haven't bothered to download PlayStore.apk, though I may change my mind in the future, I just don't foresee that not having it pre-installed would be a problem, in any case, I just don't need it. *at the moment* <<<<I'm lovin it....YESSIRR This is a one stop shop for ALL my entertainment needs. I watch Netflix, Hulu+, and HBOGo, with no streaming problems or constant buffering in the middle (my Netbook is notorious for this, drives me crazy) The touch screen is very responsive and so sensitive that I hardly have to touch it and have to constantly remind others that it isn't like most touch screens, It loads all my .pdf files with no problem which surprised me very much because Amazon is forever messing with my reading material, by making pages disappear or completely deleting them from the device when it updates and it has happened more than once with my other one. I was even able to put Magic Jack on it witch works great as long as I got battery and Wi-Fi we got a phone, (that can't call 911, mind you) it's pure stupid, I know. I had to know if it would work, sure does too! It even has it's own phone #, cute, huh? or like me and say all the time before I actually had a Fire HD Today I'm not sure where my Netbook is..lol...I haven't looked at it since my Kindle Fire HD arrived I even enjoy surfing the web despite the small screen, seeing how I can zoom in on almost everything to see better (except pictures on the pop-out item viewer and only on Facebook & Amazon, which seems odd seeing how this is an Amazon made device, right? Then shouldn't that site run flawlessly by default? You would think so, but not here in reality, where everything runs a little differently. I love the Silk browser it is super simple and the speed that pages load is out of this world! My computer is slower but honestly I haven't seen a faster web browser or a faster overall E-reader / tablet / all in one entertainment / storage / DJ /fun center / and study & reading helper for my kid and not to mention, my new super addiction...and so much more :) I know... it's almost / nit quite healthy and it keeps my brain busy. Which you can't say about most addictions (such as Facebook) that kills brain activity and causes you to act a fool on the regular. I love that I can see all my downloaded content directly on my device without having to go online with my computer to amazon cloud. Speaking of sound and the speakers they have put in this thing makes my tv cry, or it should because these sound so much better! These are remarkably clear and loud for such a small little tablet. So far I've read 3 full books to test this before I decided to keep it, and haven't had any problems as long as I turn the brightness waaaay down, it seems to help with head ache & eye strain seeing how I have unusual light colored eyes and am extremely light sensitive because of that and if things are too bright for too long I will get a migraine, and that is no good and extremely painful and have no want to induce such pain on myself if it can be avoided. But that hasn't happened as of yet. Thank God! I would have to say goodbye to my new toy that I truly love. Another thing I wish is...that there was a way to stream music and movies from your cloud storage so you don't have use up space on the device for it. That would be awesome to have all your ripped DVD's and music right there without using internal storage being that it is considerably finite when you are talking about the memory and ram of the Fire HD. They're are many apps that you can stream content you've downloaded from an online cloud(like) database and allows you to view and listen to your personal library, though I haven't tinkered with that yet. (Let you know in the update later on.) I have allot of stuff that I need to put on my cloud storage for easy access but I'll save all that busy work for a rainy day. This review is enough busy work for today. Oh and I backed up all my Facebook photos to the cloud and now they are at my fingertips...I can easily have them printed, send them to friends, make post cards..whatever it's gonna be a blast. It was really easy to sink all my accounts to the Fire HD as well. This thing is definitely worth the money that I paid, and considering how functional it is I believe I made the right decision for me. There are a few OS problems but only because I'm not 100% on how to do things that isn't very important or causing problems with how the device works but I would like to understand how to do a few little things, such as... configure the carousel, and place other items to be viewed there or if they are just there because it's recently viewed apps/data or if it's just random stuff that amazon puts there like the stupid advertisements. My guess is recently viewed or used apps show up there because there is no way to change it other than to remove unwanted items, and I haven't found a way to add items other than the favorites star which I honestly wish was located where the (other customers enjoyed blah, blah, non-sense...it says stuff like trending now! I don't even know what that means. I just don't like it, grrrrr.) I'm actually going to call amazon and see if the no ad version is able to be personalized or are they restricted like it's annoying little friend here. If it turns out that you can, I will be sending this one back for the no ad version. I'll update after I speak with them about it. I believe that amazon "tweeked" the Ice Cream Sandwich OS to work especially for the Kindle Fire HD, but it has a different feel. Or at least that is the feel I get from daily usage and prior experience with the android operating system. I can't explain it, it's so different, but the same on a basic level. It just feels awkward at times, and that causes confusion when finding controls and options, but it all seems to operate smoothly, so I guess I'll get used to it. Which brings me to the one problem with this lovely machine....of course it would be totally my fault, I can't even really blame Amazon because they told me exactly what to expect, though now that I've seen it in action there is a very fine line between brilliance and total stupidity concerning what Amazon's doing here and why, giving people the choice of the version with Ads and paying more to have one without. Now the brilliant part is having people pay you to advertise everyone's crap, and the people who want to be advertised pay you too...so your making money coming and going. Pure brilliance Amazon! *Standing Ovation* But to prey on the cheap people who will take ANY discount for a better deal, this isn't the case with the Kindle HD. I was hoping that it was worth the 14$ I saved, while these ads are driving me crazy...Not so much now. I find myself wishing that I would have just shelled out the extra $, all the time. Now that I see the ads in action I believe the price break should be more than 14 to 20 $ due to the fact that it won't let me change anything! Wallpaper, lock screen, home screen set up, NOTHING and I believe it is because of the adds, so the break in the price should reflect the limitations and $50 for instance, seems extremely fair in my opinion. Only because you loose value when you limit the users who are used to using android devices that are almost limitless in their personalization, concerning home screens, wallpaper, lock screen, and as small as widgets (you don't need them but they are nice to have when you want to use them) even text is locked unless you're in a book. It truly bugs me, but not only the fact that I went for cheaper and screwed myself and it really drives me nuts. It was suppose to be a thrifty well informed decision made sense at the time, & it bit me in the rear. THAT IS MY ONE and ONLY GRIPE, I HATE THE DANG ADVERTISEMENTS ON MY HOME SCREEN and the personalization limits that come with it!!! My advice is to just spend the extra 20 or 15 $ or whatever it is now and get it without the stupid ads. Every time I open my super nifty leather magnetic & perfectly lovely purple protective cover, that I really love, and also it hides the ads when not in use. (I realize that it's not a big deal, but it's still makes me wonder how it would be without the ads. I wish that wasn't the case on my brand new Kindle and it makes me wonder how much memory and space those actually take up, I wonder how much faster it would be if it didn't have all the non-sense running that I don't use, nor do I want or need it. I'm sure the answer would make smoke come out of my ears. Actually I know it would. Mucking Ads! SMH! It's kinda sad that it bothers me that much and it's only on my lock screen and in the bottom of my home screen (so wish I could remove that too. I would give anything for a do over on this one small thing. Everything else is utter PERFECTION and I'm not sure how I lived without it for so long! <<<<In conclusion: I love this tablet, I bought my daughter a no name brand Android tablet it runs on Ice Cream Sandwich and is pretty fast for the price, I paid $170 for it because she wanted a 10 inch, I was super impressed with it...until this came and blew it out of the water. My Kindle flies compared to her sad, slow, huge freaking tablet, it is like it is a bigger yet retarded(no offence, I don't know what other word would fit this particular situation) version of the Fire HD, it's just sad how much they differ, but at the same time be so similar in operation specs. and price. I'm kicking myself for not going with my gut and spend the extra 20$ (after sales tax) on her a Fire HD instead, I wish now that I had. Guess you live and learn and know that all tablets and reading devices are NOT created equal. They differ drastically and the older the no name one gets (which is only 2 months btw) the slower and more hopeless it becomes. Now it's has started to freeze on Netflix and shut down apps unexpectedly, that originally worked perfect. My 7 year old daughter said that she wants to play on my Kindle because hers is too slow, and she doesn't want to mess with it, while fighting to open apps. I bought the extended warranty on it so, I may take it and have them either replace it or just get the $ back and buy her a Fire HD, as well. I will try to update this in a month or so, and hopefully I will still love it just as much.
Top critical review
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Pros & Cons - What I wish I'd known before I bought it ...
By NCJames on Reviewed in the United States on February 10, 2013
Reviews are useless without context, so let me tell you a little about why I bought this device: My experience before the Kindle Fire HD was with Apple devices supplied by my work (which is one reason why there are so many iPad comparisons below - plus, lets face it, a lot of people who read this review are trying to figure out if it's worth it to spend the extra $100 on an iPad Mini), and a Kindle Touch. I really enjoy using all of these devices, but since I try to keep work and home separate, I wanted a device of my own and was hesitant to shell out the $300+ for an iPad or iPad mini. After doing a lot of research, I decided on the Kindle Fire HD 7". I made that decision based on a number of things: 1) I'm an Amazon Prime user; 2) I watch Netflix and Hulu, 3) I checked the Amazon app store to make sure the main apps I want/need were there and they were; 4) I like that I can buy content on Amazon and watch it on essentially any device, and 5) I'm a huge audible audiobook user. I've now had the device for about 3 months and used it extensively. Here is my review: Overall: Depending on why you want this device, it's either a great buy or a mediocre buy. If you're using it just to consume media (music, videos, books, etc) it's fine. It can be great, in fact, if you stick to Amazon's services and/or Netflix and Hulu. If you're expecting something that can potentially function as a replacement for your laptop, like an iPad can, - look elsewhere. In the areas where iPad falls short of a laptop, either the iOS or a great app usually makes up the deficit. That is simply not the case with the Kindle Fire HD. I'm not unhappy with it per se, but I could definitely be happier. Bottom line: this is a media consumption, social networking and shopping (from Amazon) device. If those are your purposes, it's an overall good buy. I don't play games much, so I can't comment on that. The two biggest complaints I heard and/or saw for this device when doing my research are the ads and the buttons being hard to find. The ads: I turned off the carousel ads via settings (because they bothered me) but I still get the welcome screen ads and it's not worth the $15 to turn them off - I don't even notice them anymore. This really is a non-issue. Th buttons: I almost never use them. There is a volume slider in every app I've seen and I use a Kindle cover that puts the device to sleep when I close the cover flap. When I do use them they are never hard to find. Also a non-issue. 10 Pros - 1) Low entry price. You can buy a Kindle Fire HD 7", a nice leather case and about $25 worth of media/apps for less than the cost of an iPad Mini. 2) It's built well. This was a surprise. I liked my Kindle Touch very much, but it did feel like a cheap toy when I first pulled it out of the box. I didn't have that feeling with the Fire HD. 3) It's the perfect size. I have an iPad 2 and it's too big to read on, just uncomfortable. My iphone, on the other hand is too small to watch movies on for the most part. This is a perfect medium option. Perfect for books, acceptable for video. I'm not going running with it anytime soon, but I do listen to music on it when I'm stationary. It even fits in a cargo pocket 4) It has GREAT sound (far outperforms similar tablets on this point). My wife and I would occasionally sit in bed and try to watch a movie on the iPad, but even with no kids in the room it was often just about impossible to hear the movie on the iPad speaker. We simply don't have that problem on the Kindle. I knew this before I bought it because I watched a video on a Kindle Fire HD at a crowded Best Buy during the peak of the Christmas shopping season and heard it just fine. 5) I don't use this feature, but Kindle lets you set up profiles for kids restricting time and access to certain apps. I have 5 kids and I think this is a great feature. I just personally choose to not let them play with the device. 6) It's great for reading. Some people complain about not holding an actual book, but I have yet to meet one of those people who has tried reading an book on an e-reader with a case. The case makes all the difference in the world. It gives you the feel of a book, especially the leather cases and the satisfaction of closing it when you put it down or finish. It's dumb, but it's true. 7) I love the way it interfaces with Amazon's music, books, prime video, photo and audible services. It's seamless. 8) At the time I purchased it (Christmas 2012), display resolution was almost double that of competitor tablets in similar price range. To my knowledge, there are still no devices in the $200 price range that can touch Kindle Fire HD on display quality. 9) Battery life - I feel like I use this device all the time and I only charge it once a week. My iPad and iPhone need charging once a day. 10) As an Amazon Prime member I like the device a lot. When I need to buy, I always go to Prime first. I can usually save money and almost never pay shipping. When you have five kids, the convenience factor of being able to shop online, not pay for shipping and get it in 2 days (sometimes 1) is impossible to overstate. This device makes it almost unnecessary to logon to Amazon on my actual computer. I wish I could say that I'd tried to shop elsewhere with the device, but the truth is that aside from groceries - I buy almost everything from Amazon via my Prime account. 10 Cons: 1) Streaming video from sites besides Amazon prime, Netflix and Hulu is sketchy. I don't think this is a bandwidth issue - my internet is a very fast package and it works fine on my other devices. On YouTube for example, my iPhone does better on 3G than Kindle does on wifi, even with resolution turned down to low quality. I also tried comparing iPad w/ wi-fi to Kindle w/ wi-fi on YouTube and there is no contest. iPad killed it. I think this may be a google compatibility issue, because it works fine on the sites listed above. In fact, Kindle at times outperforms my iPad on Netflix. 2) Privacy - Apparently, Amazon collects info about which sites you visit via the built-in Silk browser so they can push more relevant content to you in the ads. This idea bugs me and there aren't any available alternative browsers in Kindle's App Store. You can choose to encrypt your data, but it slows things down when you browse. The talking point in the marketing collateral above says "designed for the web" or something to that effect, I think that's true from Amazon's perspective, but not from the consumer's. It's designed to capture data from the web to help the company sell products to the consumer. It's absolutely not designed for the best consumer experience when browsing the web - if it were, they'd give you a choice about which browser you'd like to use. 3) App availability - You don't have access to every Android app or the Google Play store. You do have access to thousands of apps, as they get approved by Kindle (including one free app a day, which I'll admit is pretty cool). You can circumvent this issue somewhat by installing an unapproved app that gives you access to a different free app market, but a lot of them don't work well (those using Google services, for example) and none of them are specific to Kindle Fire. For the most part, this limitation has been no big deal - I've almost always been able to find the app I'm looking for or something equivalent, but there have been enough exceptions to be annoying. Also for iOS there are iPad and iPhone variants of apps. The iPad versions tend to be more fully functional and often outshine the full website for whatever service you're using. In the event that no iPad native app exists, you can install the iPhone app. But when used that way, the apps "feel" like iPhone apps. Most of the Kindle Fire apps I've used "feel" like phone apps. E.g., they are less functional and designed for a phone sized screen. 4) Amazon's "skin" or interface is overlayed on top of Android and it is pretty restrictive in both functionality and interface. Frustratingly so, even for someone who is used to iOS which "advanced" users tend to complain about because functionality is limited. I'm also an advanced user, but I'm willing to put up with a more restrictive OS if, and only if, the OS is designed well enough that I don't miss the "advanced" features. For example, on iOS, I use my iPhone and iPad daily and I have NEVER missed having access to the file/directory structure (and if I did, I could get it by simply plugging the iPad into my computer). On Kindle I miss it pretty regularly and I simply HATE the carousel display. In fact, if I could turn off the carousel display I might be a lot happier. I have never been tempted to "jailbreak" my apple devices and wouldn't be even if they weren't the property of my employer. That's not true with Kindle. 5) Google services don't work with Kindle Fire. Google Finance, Drive, Docs, Reader, etc. will not work on Kindle - at least not via any Apps that I've found. I haven't tried to browse to them directly via the browser. Gmail will work, via Kindle's native mail app. 6) No rear facing camera or flash. Not a huge deal, but annoying nonetheless, especially with a device with such a great display - I would like to take pictures without either being in them or guessing what I'm aiming at. With Kindle Fire, you either guess and check or put yourself in the picture. Also, I don't want every pic I take added to the cloud and/or previewed in the Carousel. 7) I had to download special apps to do things it should do out of the box - certain video formats, for example, require an app to be installed. Mild annoyance and one you face with most devices, but still an annoyance. 8) There is no button (except power and volume) that is independent of the OS. So if something freezes, you can't just exit out short of killing the power or rebooting and it does freeze occasionally. I really, really miss the button at the bottom of most other devices. This is most noticeable when you're trying to watch video and it's stuttering. You can't even get to the pop-up menu to get to the "back" arrow or home button. 9) I despise the autocorrect. It's hard to describe exactly how annoying this feature is. The corrections are often wrong and I can't turn it off. I did figure out that I can add things manually, but who wants to have to do that?! A lot of people claim that you can't replace a computer with a tablet, but after having done so for my work for almost a year, I disagree. With the Kindle Fire, however, I can understand the claim. I hate typing on this thing because fighting the autocorrect is a constant annoyance. I didn't think this would be a big issue because I wasn't planning on doing any sort of document editing with it - but it's turned out to be quite a pain even with emails. 10) Reading at night, even with brightness turned all the way down can be retina searing. Oddly, Sepia mode seems to be less taxing on the eyes in a dark room than Night mode. There are apps you can use to turn it down even further, but I shouldn't have to install a special app to read comfortably on a device that is at least on the surface designed to be an e-reader.
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