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VERY QUIET IF YOU USE NOCTUA FAN (bye bye warranty, do at your own risk)
By m4gr4th34 on Reviewed in the United States on October 11, 2024
10/23/2024 : (If you choose to replace the fan, you do it at your own risk, and I take no responsibility for the outcome.) I pulled the trigger and installed the Noctua NF-A4x20 FLX 12v 0.05A, and now the unit runs SUPER QUIET. I cannot hear it at all from 10 feet away, and up close it just sounds like a soft hum, quite pleasant, as is the nature of noctua. Since I got this switch on a pretty good deal, I did not want to return it, so I decided to just use a razor to carefully cut the soft rubber on the plug of the original fan's wire, after which it easily came off. Use a small flat screwdriver, or tweezer, to "unclip" the security tab (on the 3-pin header) before pulling the plug, otherwise the entire head will come off. It is easy to unscrew the two screws of the old fan. To install the noctua i just used the larger washer, and i don't think you need even that tbh (or u can just use the screws that come with the noctua fan for the quickest, easiest installation). Now, it runs super quiet with smooth airflow, and should last even longer than with the original fan. I will update if the unit fails, if not, assume it is still running solid. I decided to share because of all the other times when generous people voided their own warranties in order to help the community out. So, I can confirm the noctua fan works, and is very, very, very very quiet. If you choose to replace it, you do it at your own risk, and I take no responsibility for the outcome. 10/22/2024 : I spent a lot of time trying to make this work, because other than the fan it is an excellent unit (talk about weak link in the chain!!). I definitely did NOT open this up, and did NOT peak inside, but from other videos/pics on the internet I found that it has 1 small fan that is plugged into a 3-pin header, so technically it *should* be very easy to switch with a Noctua NF-A4x20 FLX 12v 0.05A. Except, TP-Link in their infinite wisdom, apparently, have also layered some wax/silicon type goo on the 3-pin plug, pretty much ensuring that you void the warranty if you try to switch out the fan. I am so disappointed, given how sensible their other products seem to be made. Why put a server-grade fan in a consumer-grade product? And then make it impossible for the consumer to upgrade the fan to a normal one? Very disappointed. I am seriously debating whether to return and wait for a quiet model in 1-2-3 years, or to just risk the warranty and replace with a noctua. Original: Reading other reviews, I thought it would make a moderate hum, not notable from 15-20 feet away. Nope. The fan is high pitched, the type of cpu fans from 20 year ago (remember those?). This had a good sale on the big sale day so I was eager to get it. Sadly as soon as I plugged it in I knew it was too noisy. It whines for about a minute, then stops, making you think maybe it was just startup noise. But, even with NO load, AND in front of TWO high end fans, the internal fan kicked on and stayed on. Wow. I am so shocked, at this price, these fans are ridiculous!!!! Can only be used in a server room, away from humans. Very unpleasant sound. I have some big NAS hard drives that churn in my living room, and those sound like gentle chugs compared to this. Anyway, I went with the 5-port passive version that was also on sale — that one is working solidly and with my fans should remain within decent temps. I have added a video, excuse the mess, but it actually sounds much louder in real life. The sound it makes up close in the video is what it sounds like from 15 feet away in a quiet room. I unplugged it at the end of the video which is why it stopped. Do not get this 8-port if your have a quiet room or plan to watch movie or sleep or live around it. I honestly expected more from tp-link, I am shocked …
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PSA: Lockup condition where device cannot find internet or get a DHCP assigned IP address
By Harper on Reviewed in the United States on September 21, 2023
I've had two of these switches working flawless for nearly five years. Recently, I had to trip the circuit breaker resulting in reboot of both switches and several computers attached to the network. At first none of the computers were able to connect to the router or get an IP address through DHCP. If you read the little "Product Information" troubleshooting guide provided on this Amazon site, it is obviously a bunch of screen shots that walk through this very problem. They go through a series of steps involving setting up static IP addresses that will result in fixing the problem, even though it is entirely couched as gathering information rather than fixing it. ***This should not be a fix*** Why is that? Network switches don't work on the IP address level, they work on MAC addresses, which are unique to each device. So playing games with the IP addresses should not solve the issue. But this switch seems to have some smart features, particularly around IGMP that appear to block some traffic based on IP address. If you look at the details of your computers ethernet device, you will see zero received packets, and the transmitted packets slowly ticking up. This is a lockup condition. The condition works like this: 1) A computer boots up and looks for an IP address from a DHCP server. For some reason it cannot reach the server (maybe the router is down) and so it assigns itself an IP address within an autogenerated IP subdomain. 2) When the router comes up, it sends out a broadcast looking for everything that can see it within a certain IP subdomain. 3) The IP subdomains of the computer and the router are mutually exclusive. When they broadcast to do network discovery, they use multicast packets local to their subdomain. The switch does not allow these multi-cast packets to cross subdomains, so the computer and the router will never find each other. All the discovery is filtered out. If you reboot the computer. It will default to the last autogenerated IP address and the switch will filter discovery. If you power cycle the switch, it will quickly relearn the autogenerated IP address and apply the filter. If you reboot the switch, same problem--separate subdomains. The condition is locked in until you manually join the two subdomains together via static IP address allocation. The troubleshooting fix is a way to manually break this loop by putting the computer in the same subdomain as the router. This is never explained in the solution, and it makes it sound like you are just doing some debugging experiments to make sure your switch isn't broken. The the link magically starts working and you breath a sigh of relief and move on with your life. My first job was designing ASICs for network switches, so I have some familiarity with the low level workings of a switch. A dumb switch will never have this problem. It doesn't look at IP addresses, subdomains, or anything. If a packet doesn't have a specific MAC address as a destination, it will propogate the packet to all ports. My guess is the IGMP snooping feature is causing this lockup condition to occur, since it says it limits the effect of multicast packets on the network. This is not a problem any home user has to deal with. If I was going to fix this from TP-Link's side, I would probably default to dumb switch operation for first 5 minutes of operation. That allows all devices to do network discovery before the IGMP snooping/multicast filtering kicks in. With that solution, you would just have to power cycle the switch and everything would magically fix itself. As it stands, you need to do some pretty complicated network surgery to fix it. No normal user should have to mess with static IP addresses. In fact, you can cause more problems if you assign an address that is already taken. And in my case, this was not an option. I had my work laptop with the network settings locked down. I spent about 8 hours total debugging, discussing, and theorizing on the problem. I spent nearly as long googling for answers--the information is just not out there.
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