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Logitech Bluetooth Keyboard - K480 - Refurbished - Very Satisfied
By TomNY on Reviewed in the United States on January 1, 2018
Logitech Bluetooth Keyboard - K480 - Refurbished This keyboard is designed to pair with three different devices and switch easily between them via a three position selector switch. It works with any Windows, Android, Chrome, or iOS device capable of communicating with Bluetooth. I wanted an external keyboard because I am often finding myself working on e-mail or other simple documents on just my phone or Kindle Fire tablet and find that the built in touch keyboards are too frustrating for anything but a simple response and I was spending more time correcting the "corrections" that they make to my input. I chose this particular keyboard because Logitech makes products that I trust and because It has the ability to easily select which device to use and this can be done on the fly with all three devices open and in front of me. This review is for the refurbished model, but the only things that I saw that might suggest refurb is that it came without batteries (it takes two AAA) and there was something crossed out in pen under the battery door. Other than that, the keyboard came in a white cardboard box, perfectly wrapped in a plastic bag and looking and working perfectly. One note about the physical appearance of the keyboard. It is large and it is heavy. it is nearly the size and weight of my chromebook and that is just for the keyboard. There is a groove along the top to hold the tablet/phone is place so the overall feel when using it is as if you are working on a laptop (except without a mouse/pointing device, for which I found it useful to keep a stylus handy). I like this configuration because the size and weight make the system extremely stable and comfortable when placed in my lap while lying in bed. Size and weight would be a drawback if portability were required. For reference, the groove will perfectly fit most tablets or phones in any orientation but will not fit a device that is in a case of any substance. Setup is extremely simple. Place the batteries in the case and close the door. Select which device to assign to which position. Hold down the Connect key for either iOS or one of the other operating systems. Open your device to search for the keyboard. It then sends a code to your screen that you have to type in and the pairing is complete. There is an attractive instruction sticker attached in the space between the keyboard and the groove that gives all of the instructions that you need. I will be leaving it on my keyboard but that is personal preference. I successfully paired and tested the keyboard with a Kindle Fire HD7 tablet, an LG 5 phone, and an iPad 2. Living with this keyboard has been easy so far, as it has met my needs and expectations. I use it with mostly with the Kindle Fire and the LG G5 phone. I place the Fire in the groove (in landscape mode) and it makes a decent, if rudimentary, word processor using the WPS Office app accessible from the Docs app on the Fire. The 7" screen is relatively small, but it is bright and high resolution enough that I would rate this as easy to use for this purpose as my Chromebook. However, the Fire and my phone are always with me when I am home and I don't need to sign in to them when I want to use them, so this is actually better for me in that respect. I use an Otter Box case for my phone because I tend to be hard on phones. It protects the phone extremely well but, by design, is not easy to remove from the phone. I have to place that on a stand next to the keyboard when I want to type. So far, I have tried the keyboard on this phone with Messaging and with MS Word for Android. As with Docs on the Fire, it works well and behaves like a mini word processor. The screen on the G5 is higher resolution and brighter than on the Fire, but it is also smaller, so I find that the Fire is better for that purpose, but Word has a Mobile View option that makes the text more readable while working on it, so it works well in either orientation. Messaging works exactly as expected, with the added advantage that you type twice as fast with a keyboard than without one and you don't spend half of your time fixing what auto-correct thought you wanted to send in your message. The keys on the keyboard have a nice feel to them and work reliably, as one might expect from Logitech. They have decent tactile feedback but they are loud. I don't find that to be a problem. My only disappointment comes when deleting, using backspace. In this case, there is a small lag between when you press the key and the letter to be deleted disappears This would never be noticed if you delete one letter at a time, but it can be off-putting when trying to delete a whole word or sentence by holding the delete and letting it repeat because you will go past where you thought you might. This can be annoying enough to deduct a star, but I This appears to be a limitation that comes from the tablet rather than the keyboard, because I can select text in real time, so I give Logitech the benefit of the doubt on this. As mentioned above, I keep a stylus handy to use as a pointer when needed, so I find it is easy enough to use it to select a longer passage and delete it that way. It is the shorter items where old habits kick in and I use the delete key multiple times. I also find that selecting the text with the shift key and left arrow key works responsively and as expected, so this shouldn't be a problem. I like that the keyboard has a set of function keys along the top that give functionalities that might go unused in a mobile device because you can't remember the shortcuts for that particular system. There are : Esc F1- Home F2- Task Switcher F3- Toggle menues F4- Go back F5- Search F6- Rewind/Back F7- Play/Pause F8- Forward/Next F9- Mute Audio F10- Decrease Volume F11- Increase Volume F12- Insert/Save Screen Shot/ Lock Screen Del Some of these keys are modified by other keys, like the fn key along the bottom of the keyboard chooses screen shot or lock. I haven't explored these so I can't comment on them. All of the characters needed for daily use are present, but not the myriad special ASCII characters that we might sometimes need. It may be possible to to access them through the alt key like on a PC, but I don't know if that is built into every operating system or how to access it from here. In summary, the Certified Refurbished Logitech k480 Bluetooth keyboard has met or exceeded my expectations. The keyboard presents itself as if it were never opened or used in any way, so I would say that the refurb is n excellent way in this case to save a third of the cost. I find the k480 keyboard to be comfortable and more convenient to use in my environment than opening up a Chromebook or laptop. Having phone and tablet in front of me, I can switch between them and actually get some sort of meaningful work done from devices that were meant more for convenience than productivity. I can't stress the convenience of the three device switch enough. The switching is instant and seemless. Due to the size and weight of the keyboard, I might choose a different solution if needed this capability outside the house. At that point a laptop or Chromebook would offer better security and more flexibility.
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The first unit arrived DOA.
By ps6155 on Reviewed in the United States on December 9, 2021
Google Renewed works great. The K480 isn’t the best choice for Chrome Tablets. A large tablet slot was a feature I wanted, to turn a Chrome tablet into a LAP top. It does but … I have more than 40 years experience as an electronics engineer and have bought and used hundreds of Logitech keyboards and mice for the companies for which I worked. I prefer Logitech products . I've never had a new one that was DOA, regardless of the distribution channel. I purchased the K480 as a renewed unit to test Amazon's program and keep something usable out of a landfill. Saving a few bucks wasn't a consideration. Delivery of this order was typical of Amazon - a day faster than estimated at time of order. The packaging looked perfect and the keyboard inside the packaging looked perfect. That's where this experience started to fail. Logitech ships all their new wireless keyboards with batteries installed. Removable batteries have a pull-tab to insulate them. This unit is supposed to have 2 year battery life with the batteries installed by Logitech. Batteries weren’t installed; that’s understandable. No batteries in the packaging wasn’t. That didn't meet the “all accessories included” and “80% installed battery capacity” that is part of the Amazon renewal program. I installed a set of new tested batteries in the unlabelled slot. The keyboard would not power on. I tried with the channel selector switch in position 1, with the power switch in each of the two unlabeled positions, and the batteries inserted in both orientations. Although I never saw a power LED come on I tried pairing and failed each time. This unit was bad out of the box. I applied for a replacement and dropped it off at a UPS store the same day . I didn't care if it was DBS (Dead before shipping), damaged in shipment in sub-zero weather, or if it had an intermittent fault that the low temperature shipping made persistent . I cared how quickly a replacement unit arrived, if it worked, and if it came from the same reprocessing supplier. I had a replacement 5 days later- 5 days faster than estimated and it worked. I’m sold on Amazon Renewed - except for the batteries. While waiting I did more research online. I determined that the power switch's ON position was away from the battery compartment and showed green, and the battery orientation was with the positive ends toward the power switch. That had been the first combination I tried with the first unit. Logitech’s website First Time Setup https://www.logitech.com/en-us/manuals/k480-immersion-guide shows the power switch In the OFF position while the text says that it's in the ON position, and without labeling either position. If the battery polarity and the international symbols for ON and OFF ( ⏻ ⏼ ) had been molded into the case OR if the battery had been reinstalled with a strip of pull tape as an insulator, it would have saved me an hour of experimenting to determine the first unit was dead. The replacement unit looks new and works as implied Android and Windows. Used with a Chromebook It falls short of its claim that “ You'll find a familiar keyboard layout with all the shortcut keys you use the most”. It does not do this. Instead F1 through F12 are firmware remapped to media functions Logitech has selected that do not consistently match most of the operating systems listed on the keyboard. All the shortcut buttons that a Chromebook user uses correspond to F1 through F11, with each mapped to a particular function determined years ago by Google . Instead of these shortcuts it's necessary every time to press the function key simultaneously with one of the F keys. Additionally the key labelled “caps lock” serves a different function on a Chromebook. It's the Everything key. I’ve used the same generic 104-key USB keyboards with Chromebooks, Windows and Apple computers. Except for keycap labeling they worked perfectly as expected on each platform. Windows and Apple have utilities available to remap the keys F1- F11 to many different possible functions and use the touch typing habits you prefer. In contrast, The K480 is a jack of 3 trades but a bastard at all of them. Mechanically, the K480 isn't a horrible keyboard for use with a tablet. The buttons are close to standard spacing, have dished tops with a textured surface . Key travel is long compared to most laptops and has a rubber bubble feel, but that's superior to trying to type on a glass screen. Unless you need an 84-key 3-device keyboard with a large tablet holding slot, there are better alternatives, from Logitech, like the 104-key, 2-device K580 for Chrome + Android with standard Chrome OS key labels.
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