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eero WiFi System

$279.30
$399 30% off Reference Price
Size: 1 eero Pro + 2 eero Beacons
Style: Without eero Plus (1 Year Subscription)
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Top positive review
9 people found this helpful
Eero's Stable, Speedy and Simple Mesh Network compared to 9 months real life use of Orbi Mesh Network system
By Tech Focus on Reviewed in the United States on April 10, 2018
*Update 5/4/2018 - I've been running my Eero network for almost a full month. No single disconnect, needing to restart Wifi. The wifi speed does fluctuate time of day like Orbi, but no disconnect is a huge thing. I'm glad I bought Eero. ===Original Review==== I have had invested in Orbi system and had been using it for 9 months. It was an great system most of time, but network instability annoyance became obvious hinderance to proper function on my newly added home gadget, HEOS WiFi Multiroom speaker system. So I've decided to give a chance to alternative.   Stability Vs. Orbi This is the main reason I started to seek alternative to Orbi system covering two story 3800sqft home.  In a quick background, I have initially purchased 2 pack system (5000 sqft) but having had issue covering whole home, I ended up adding couple Satellites after and ended up owing 9000sqft coverage worth of Orbi devices in the end. When connected, speed and signal strength of Orbi network were excellent. However, intermittent random Satellite disconnect became an annoyance. Then Wifi network instability became a major issue with my recent purchase of WiFi multiroom speaker, HEOS, as some of devices became inaccessible unexpectedly and I had to reboot the device or network. After changing configuration multiple times and eventually making Orbi in AP mode with manual 2.4GHz channel selection, I got  improved network stability but not completely gone. Even the latest firmware 2.1.3.4 (as of April 2018) did not fix the issue. Eero I've tried Eero in both Bridge mode and Router mode. Basically, both works equally well. So I found no reason to keep using Eero in Bridge mode (AP mode equivalent of Orbi). Therefore, I currently use Eero in Router mode. It's been only a few days, so this is not certainly any proof of long term stability but I have not had a single issue on my network device dropping. By now, Orbi had at least one or two drop out of connection to my HEOS speaker. So far, I am extremely satisfied with this stability. Speed This is one of the most important aspect of network system and translates into measurable performance of the system particularly in time limited setting as in most online review sites do. Vs. Orbi Initially, after extensive online research I ended up choosing Orbi over other competitions because Orbi received high ratings and that's came mainly from the speed. I currently have 300 Mbps service and after getting appropriate satellites add ons, I was able to get well over 250 Mbps from end to end of my house at peak performance.   However, the speed fluctuated throughout the day and often went well down below 50 Mbps. This drop did not seem to correlate with my network use as no other device with significant use were running during these drop out events. However, 50 Mbps is still decent speed for pretty much anything we do now a days and it should be hardly noticeable for web surfing and even online streaming Eero Eero gives me peak speed well over 250 Mbps end to end of my home. Eero, similarly to the Orbi showed drop down below 50 Mbps. Simplicity Simplicity in the world of technology may be interpreted as pros as well as cons, depending on the user. From network configuration standpoint of view, Eero is much easier than Orbi. Eero setup was very simple with just plug ethernet cable, power cord and download Eero app on my iOS device then follow instructions. Once the system is up and running, I really didn't need to change anything as it was already fast, and stable. Vs. Orbi In order to get acceptable stability on Orbi, I had to change Orbi into access point mode, and set 2.4 GHz channel manually after searching what channel is open in my home. These are not hard thing to do but what hard was figuring out indeed these settings were something I needed to get the network stability. So before arriving to this, I had to try several other settings e.g. Turing on/off daisy chain mode etc. Flexibility/Customizability iOS app of Eero is far easier to use, and provide more options within than Orbi's very basic iOS app. However, this does not mean Eero actually has more customizability/flexibility.  The reality is actually opposite. Orbi wins here. Once you log in Orbi through browser interface, you see far more options/setting. I do not need any of these advanced features, but I am sure there are some out there needs very specific features that Orbi provide but Eero does not. Those are definitely considered advanced users. Price I'm a bit special in this case as I initially purchased Orbi 2 pack (labeled 5000 sqft) then required to add 2 other satellites. So I ended up spending over $700 on Orbi setup, but if I were to go with 3 pack from the start I could have probably just paid $500. Give I needed ethernet ports on Satellite, I chose Eero Pro, which also cost $500. So price point, I think they are the same for my case. Conclusion Despite over $700 investment I have made on Orbi, I plan to keep Eero Pro as my home mesh network. This is because Eero's stability. Even hypothetically the peak speed of Orbi can beat Eero and more customization options on Orbi,  unpredictable, intermittent Wifi drop out was unacceptable to me.
Top critical review
44 people found this helpful
Good WiFi, but fails on several security fronts
By Jonathan B on Reviewed in the United States on November 26, 2017
The WiFi quality is very good, and I am able to get 100+ Mbps in most places in my four story house. (We have a Gigabit internet connection, so I'm definitely limited by the WiFi, not by the WAN.) In addition, the setup is extremely easy; they've done a beautiful job with that. There are some major caveats, however. First, despite their misleading claims, the Beacons themselves (the small units that plug in to a wall socket) only have two-bands of WiFi, and thus pretty much require your devices to connect on 5 GHz in order for you to get high performance (so that the 2.4 GHz can be saved for backhaul). So to be clear: you only get a "tri-band mesh" if you buy the expensive package which has three full-size eero units. If you buy either of the other two packages, you're getting a "dual-band mesh". Second, despite the high quality WiFi this provides, I'm only giving three stars because the security of the Eero is lacking in several areas, despite that being a highly touted benefit. To be specific: - The router returns pings and responds to all incoming connection attempts to ports. This is pretty bad practice, and most routers will either default to, or let you select, a "steathy" mode where no incoming packets are responded to. Why is this important? One of the first things hackers do when scanning for vulnerabilities on random IP addresses is see if a machine is there responding to requests. Despite eero's claims otherwise, I have verified that if your system isn't responding, you get far fewer hacking attempts. People take a shot and move on. However, if your system acknowledges its existence, the hackers then stick around and try all manner of automated intrusion attempts. - There is no way to tell if a device is on the sandboxed "Guest" network or not. Everybody appears to be on the same network. - There is no way to prevent a device from connecting to the internet but still allow it to see the LAN. This is exactly what you would want to do to things like local baby monitors to prevent them from phoning home or being hijacked from the internet, but this is the first router I've had which doesn't let you do that. In fact, there's no outgoing firewall option on the Eero whatsoever. - Similarly, there is no option to allow a device to be on internet but not connect to anything else on the LAN. This would probably the most important thing Eero could do to prevent attacks from "internet of things" devices. For example, if you have an IP camera that operated by connecting to a cloud server, there's absolutely no reason you want that thing to be able to see anything on the LAN. That way, even if somebody does hack into it, they can't use that as a base to attack other devices on your network. Other, more sophisticated routers offer this option. - The subscription malware filtering only works properly on unencrypted connections. In my testing it allowed me to visit test malware sites via https that it wouldn't let me visit on http. Pretty dumb, as all it's doing is checking host names. Not sure why that can't work on https just as well as http. - All the malware filtering is doing is checking host names by running their own DNS server on your router. This is NOT a robust way to block malware. Most malware uses hard-coded IP addresses to "phone home" and the eero will do absolutely nothing about that. At this point you should realize that this "security" the eero touts is more about selling a subscription than offering real security. Because of the above two limitations, you should absolutely NOT purchase their "Plus" subscription. It's a sham and a waste of money. The ad-blocking it comes with is useless, too, and lets the majority of ads through. This router is great for providing reliable WiFi easily, but they are clearly on the Apple model: "treat users like fools and give them no options because we know better. Unfortunately, the defaults chosen by Eero are often poor from a security point of view, so they violate the corollary to the Apple model: be smarter than your users. I'm confident the security issues above could be fixed without adding undue complexity to the product, so I'm very disappointed these haven't been implemented. If these guys REALLY wanted to achieve their stated mission, they'd find a way to make *real* security accessible, instead of the half-way effort they've implemented. In summary, buy this for the great WiFi, but absolutely positively do NOT purchase their $10 a month "Plus" package. UPDATE: I've recently had problems with connectivity I've traced to the eero's security subscription, further convincing me it's a terrible add-on. I've recently had difficulty connecting to my personal server, and only fixed it by disabling the protection features of the router. My server wasn't being blocked, but it was somehow making the connection intermittent. I suspected the eero when I found out I could connect fine with the IP address but not with the host name (i.e. when DNS was being used). I turned off all the security features of the eero (which, as I mentioned above, simply uses DNS filtering) and everything began working again.

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